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Introduce yourself

Postby Swalchy » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:10 pm

Always a good icebreaker for people :)

I'm called Stephen, although I'm more regularly referred to as "Swalchy" (or "git").

I'm a self employed Computer Technician, and a general all-round geek (seriously - I'm extremely geeky).

I spend most of my time translating most things ancient/koine Greek (three main forms of Ancient Greek: Attic, Ionic, and Koine, and I study all three when I can), and pretty much spend most of my time on the PC. It's where I work, rest and play :)

I live in North-west England, sadly still with my parents (getting a house is quite expensive you see), and we're currently in the midst of quite a lot of snow, with more expected to come.

And really, that's about it :)
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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby BlessYahowah » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:37 pm

Swalchy! Yay goody! It's good to see your forum up and running, brother. I've given your site a couple of links on my own site. I cannot describe how much your hard work has blessed me.

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:15 am

I'm Rob, clue is in the name I suppose...

Part of an awesome family who feed Swalchy every Friday evening - makin sure he gets some healthy home cooked food in him ya know...

:)

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Noel » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:51 pm

Hello everyone and Stephen.

Yay we finally made it to the forum............sorry it has taken me so long. Thanks Stephen to the replies you have sent me in the past.

Hello also Richard. I think we have spoken already. We are still pointing people to the Bless Yahweh site.

It's really nice to feel that there are real people somewhere out there who know a lot more than me (which is not saying much)!. We are totally alone here in Cornwall, only 7 of us (i.e. my son and daughter and grandchildren plus spouses). But 7 is a good number.

Love to you all. Noel and Joanna

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby JRW » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:14 pm

Hello everyone, I am Jacob.

It is good to see you have a forum up and running now Stephen. I am glad you have a medium in which you are comfortable to converse, because your knowledge of Greek has been an asset to us all. I don't always agree with everything in YY but fellowship and correspondence is the best way to grow. It is also good to see you here Rob :)

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:50 am

Thx JRW :)

Hey Noel :)

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Nige » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:19 pm

Hi... Nigel here, with wife Emily watching over my shoulder as I type... we are part of Noel's aforementioned 7.
Just getting on with life up in York with our 2 boys and feeling like watered Teribinth tree's since we came to know Gods name

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby danshelper » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:52 pm

Hello all,
It's great to see old and new friends here. I am Karen, my husband is Dan and I am his helper - danshelper. I look forward to the YHWH honoring and spiritually challenging conversations we'll have here. Thank you Stephen for your hard work and commitment to provide this forum.

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:05 pm

Welcome helper of Dan :D I hope you have been keeping well!

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby toni » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Hello everybody! I'm glad I found you. Thank you Swalchy for your hard work in correcting the mistranslations of the NT.

I am no computer wiz. I daily discover how truly inept I am. Today, I discovered that my recently crashed/wiped computer can not open pdf's or rar files. And! to make matters worse, I can't get it to download or open an adobe or rar program to fix the problem. Blast!

so, I want to thank you for making it still available to nitwits like me on the webpage!

1 question for today. Where can I find OT corrected mistranslations. I don't want to read what anyone else has to say about the text's meaning, just want to read the text itself. and of course, it needs to be on a webpage for me to be able to read it. (unless you guys have any other ideas)

Thank you, I look forward to getting to know each of you better.

toni

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:46 pm

Welcome Toni :)

you should be able to download and install this:

http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Swalchy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:58 pm

Hi Toni, and welcome to the forum!

It just so happens that I'm a Computer Technician by trade, so if you want, if you send us an email by either the email link under my posts, or via the Contact page on TWTY, with a list of your problems and what version of Windows Operating System you have, we should be able to help you with your problems :)

As with regards to your question, unfortunately I know of no place that has a corrected Tanakh/OT translation without any commentary, especially not in its entirety.

I do have a "Translate the Greek Septuagint" on my to-do list. And despite what people say, the Greek Septuagint/LXX is a pretty damn good translation of the Hebrew, so it wouldn't be too far off.

Obviously not as good as a real translation of the Hebrew Tanakh. And there's quite a lot of things on my "to-do" list, and I wonder whether there's enough time left for me to do them all :lol:
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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby toni » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:05 pm

Rob, I will always think of you as "Johnny-on-the-spot"

your recommended download worked without my pulling out any more hair! Thanks you, Sir!

now I will try to open something and I'll get back to you. <3

toni

Swalchy - thanks for the offer. I'm sure I'll need some (much) help...but I won't overwhelm you with too much. tks - toni

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:40 pm

No probs :D

Hope you find this place helpful :)

BlessYahowah

Re: Introduce yourself

Postby BlessYahowah » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:08 pm

Hi, everybody!

Toni, you bring up a really good point. The only way I can think of to obtain an unbiased translation of the original Hebrew would be to do it ourselves. Another brother has attempted to do that using multiple lexicons and, I would suppose, other helps. What he claims to have done, and I have verified part of this for myself, is to have used his lexicons to find the root word for each Hebrew word in a Scripture passage. From that root word, he began his translation into English, so that what he ended up with was a lengthy, more likely-to-be-accurate translation.

Is that a feasible solution for most of us? I doubt it, but it's all I can offer on this matter. Isn't that sad?

Thanks to all of you for being here, and to you, Rob and crew, for taking care of our brainiac brother. I too am a computer tech, supposedly retired, so I feel more at home now.

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby toni » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:16 pm

I have been searching around on the YY site, looking for a "compilation" of the scriptures presented by the author in the old testament. I only find bits and pieces from page to page and then lots of his explanations.

Has anyone made such a compilation or know if he's made available his translations?

thanks to everyone.

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Rob » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:39 pm

I know James is compiling a translation of already translated sections of YY and translating parts himself. Although, and I am sure he would be the first to admit, he is just kinda starting out and probably needs to redo all the stuff he has already done. Just like Swalchy did when he started out - and still needs to with some books :D

I think you can find James stuff in this thread:

http://yadanews.com/yaf_postst2217_New-Translation.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But again use for educational purposes only and check stuff - I know James would want us to :)

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby toni » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:02 pm

Thanks Rob! This is James' translation of Genesis. That's a good place to start. Still hoping for more.

How exactly, forgive me for asking, would I check it out for myself?

What materials would I use? Where would I find them? Am I going to be flat broke after obtaining these said materials?

toni

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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby Swalchy » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:23 pm

Well there's a few online places that people like to use:

http://www.blueletterbible.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.biblos.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.biblestudytools.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.studylight.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://unbound.biola.edu/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://jps.biblebrowser.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And there's a few, free "Bible Study" programmes out there too:

http://www.e-sword.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.bible-explorer.com/be4pc.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.theword.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://bibledatabase.com/free_bible_software.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://bibleocean.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://faithofgod.net/davar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But most of us use the Original Languages Library from Logos - http://www.logos.com/product/8667/origi ... es-library" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Although weirdly, you can get it cheaper on Amazon.com http://tinyurl.com/474nahf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Contacting Logos and telling them this, usually means you get it from them at the cheaper price :)

So yeah, quite expensive, but probably the best $400 you could ever spend
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Re: Introduce yourself

Postby toni » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:32 pm

Thank you for that extensive library of resources. Several of them I was aware of and have used in the past, namely: e-sword, biblos, blue letter, unbound bible, as well as a interlinear bible that I purchased a long while back.

However, If one is going to really search out the oldest, supposedly un-tainted, manuscripts available, all these a fore mentioned tools are disqualified? Am I right? or am I wrong?

and therefore, only the "really expensive" logos original language library is worth anything for fulfilling my purpose. Right or wrong?

I'd rather plunk down the $ for something that will get me to the truth and avoid all the materials that agree with one another but only give me false information.

Don't mean to offend, just trying to weed out the stuff that I've already wasted a lifetime digging through which lead me to believe and defend a lie.

toni


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