I guess the word in 1 Shamu'el 16:14: should probably be best translated as "was removed from", as that is its most common meaning.The primary meaning of the root is “to turn aside.” It appears to be a distinctively Northwest Semitic word, being attested particularly in Hebrew and Phoenician. Intransitive in the basic stem, it is accordingly frequently found with many prepositions, yielding such ideas as “turn aside from/into,” and “withdraw from.”
The verbal root occurs 191 times. In many cases it is a simple verb of motion, the act of turning aside (Ex 3:3-4; Jud 4:18; Ruth 4:1) or departing (Num 12:10).
The idea of departing could also involve spiritual issues. Thus, Samson “knew not that the Lord had departed from him” (Jud 16:20). “The Lord departed from Saul” ( I Sam 16:14; 28:16). Tragically, it was said repeatedly of Israel and its leaders that they did not depart “from the sins of Jeroboam” (II Kgs 10:31; 13:2, 6, 11; 14:24; 15:9, 18, 24, 28; 17:22; cf. 3:3). God complained against Jerusalem that the heart of his people had departed from him (Ezk 6:9). Unfortunately, those who had “departed not from following the Lord” (II Kgs 18:6) were all too few.
The root is often used of Israel’s apostasy. In many cases it is translated “turn aside/away” (e.g. Ex 32:8; Deut 9:12; 11:16). Conversely, “not to turn aside” was a way of affirming a man’s steadfastness before the Lord (I Kgs 22:43). Such a course of following strictly the will of God is frequently depicted by wedding the root to the familiar right hand-left hand motif. Thus, it was said of Josiah that he “did not turn aside to the right hand, nor to the left” (II Kgs 22:2; cf. Deut 2:27; 5:32 [H 29]; Josh 1:7).
In the Hiphil stem, the meaning “remove” is most common. Asa removes Maacah for her continued idolatry (II Chr 15:16). Hezekiah removes the places and cult objects of idolatry (II Kgs 18:4; II Chr 30:14). God’s people are urged to remove or “put away” those things that will do spiritual harm to them: strange gods (Gen 35:2), all evil (Isa 1:16), wine (I Sam 1:14), false ways (Ps 119:29), and false worship (Amos 5:21–23).
For this reason, if or whether we die and perish together, having our souls separated from our bodies, we shall also live and continue to exist together in close association; if or whether we are consistent and steadfast, enduring and persevering, being patient and cheerfully loyal, sustained and bearing, standing our ground and awaiting in hope, submitting and remaining firm, we shall also be kings and rulers, chiefs and monarchs, coregents and commanders who reign with power and authority together in close association; if or whether we shall thoroughly and utterly deny and reject, disown and disregard, abnegate and renounce, repudiate and disavow, that Certain Specific One shall also thoroughly and utterly deny and reject, disown and disregard, abnegate and renounce, repudiate and disavow us; if or whether we do not trust, obey or place any reliance or confidence, certainty or guarantee, assurance or dependence in the Trustworthy One, that Certain Specific One remains and abides, endures and lives on, lasts and persists, stays and continues on, dwells and lodges as trustful and trustworthy, reliant and obedient, being worthy to have confidence, certainty and guarantee, assurance and dependence placed in Him, for the reason that He is not powerful or mighty, able or capable, forceful or influenceable, authorised or significant, competent or excellent enough to thoroughly or utterly deny or reject, disown or disregard, abnegate or renounce, repudiate or disavow Himself.
I think if we read verses 1 to 10 we can assume it means that of formally being a believer but then turning away from the belief, as in rejecting God. The passage seems to encourage Timothy to be a good soldier, to have endurance, be strong and compete as an athlete. And if we continue reading it says in verses 17 and 18 there have been some "abandoning the truth," as Swalchy's translation puts it.The Timothy passage Matthew posted sounds to me like it's referring to those who were never born from above - those who reject God in the first place and therefore never had the spirit of God.
Also, regarding turning away from Yahweh in the Last Days I always enjoy reading 2 Timothy 4:3-4, reminds me of Atheists today, with many of them being ex-Christians.And behold, look and see! The veil, curtain and drape of the Sacred Place and Temple was split and dived, torn and rend into two pieces, from the top down to the bottom, and the earth and land, ground and inhabited region was shaken and disturbed, moved and caused to tremble and quake, and the rocks and cliffs where split and divided, torn and rend into pieces. And the sepulchres and tombs, graves and burial places were opened, and many numerous and large amounts of the bodies and flesh of set-apart and cleansed ones who had fallen asleep, who had died and were in the ground, were raised up and awakened, erected and stood up, produced and brought forth from death to life, and having gone out and departed from, left and proceeded to go from out of the sepulchres and tombs, graves and burial places after His resurrection, restoration and raising up from out of the dead, they went out and entered into the set-apart and cleansed town and city and they were manifested and exhibited, shown and declared, became visible and appeared, revealed and brought into the view of many numerous and a large amount of people.
For this reason, there shall be and exist a time, age and season when they shall not accept the validity of and listen to, patiently endure and put up with, bear with and sustain, hold up and receive, admit and uphold, lift up and exalt, remain constant to and keep, maintain and tolerate the sound and correct, well and good, accurate and true, pure and uncorrupted, errorless and rational, intelligent and pertinent, firm and constant, reliable, proper and righteous teaching and mandate, lesson and information, training and elucidation, precept and instruction, but nevertheless, notwithstanding and on the contrary, being tickled and feeling an itch, craving and wanting to be titillated in their ears, listening and hearing, they shall heap up and accumulate, pile up and surround, collect en masse and gather around themselves teachers and educators, instructors and explainers, mentors and trainers in accordance with and with regards to, in relation to and with respect to their own individual evil desires and cravings, lusts and longing, coveting, impulses and passions for what is forbidden, and indeed, truly and surely, they shall turn away from and stop listening to, refuse and reject, be sent away and remove, repudiate and divert, turn aside and avert from, defect and remove themselves from the hearing and listening of the reality and disclosure, expression and certainty, uprightness and dependableness, genuineness and reliability, fact, sincerity and honesty of the truth, and so they shall be turned away and deflected, directed aside and twisted, diverted and veered onto the myths and fables, fictional narrations and legends, falsehoods and purposes, designs and plans, untrue proverbs and tales, stories and made-up ideals, accounts and statements, reports and unauthenticated plots.
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